Heh. I wonder what you'd get if someone were to count all the eps in S3 and 4, and take note of how many Olivia (the original Blueverse Olivia) was actually present in. We know Anna could probably play 389 characters convincingly, but did we really *need* another version this time around? Especially since Amber!Liv is basically just a sad sack, watered-down, lite-beer version of Olivia v 1.0? It just feels a bit self indulgent, or at least like they'd played that trick one too many times and didn't realize it.
Yeah, Peter is my fav, but I love Olivia and Walter too, and more importantly its the dynamics between the three of them that I love the most. Take one or more of the characters away or radically change them and it just doesn't work the way it did. Even now...it's still fucked up, because Walter is never going to get his old memories back. All the development of Peter and Walter's relationship, from the starting point where Peter downright hated the man in the pilot to the conversation they had sharing a drink just before Peter first tried to enter the Machine in S3 is...permanently lost to Walter.
Yes, this Walter now loves and accepts Peter, but it's not the same, and like you said, it's some bizarro-land situation where Peter and Olivia are in a sense, totally isolated from everyone around them, and the relationship of the main three is a weird, unequal triangle now with this sort of barrier between Walter and the other two.
I get what you're saying about Olivia being the original lead, and even though I love Peter, I didn't have a problem with that. Yours isn't an uncommon sentiment, though sadly some ardent Olivia fans (NOT you, by any means!) seem to take out their disappointment and anger on Peter the character, rather than the writers of the show - and that's why you see me arguing so long and loud and hard in his defense. I guess I just don't see awesomeness as a zero sum game where building up one character must necessarily diminish another. But this Team Peter vs Team Olivia (or Team Anna vs Team Josh) thing I see in so many places is one big dealbreaker for me being more active in the fandom.
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Date: 2012-04-30 07:39 pm (UTC)Yeah, Peter is my fav, but I love Olivia and Walter too, and more importantly its the dynamics between the three of them that I love the most. Take one or more of the characters away or radically change them and it just doesn't work the way it did. Even now...it's still fucked up, because Walter is never going to get his old memories back. All the development of Peter and Walter's relationship, from the starting point where Peter downright hated the man in the pilot to the conversation they had sharing a drink just before Peter first tried to enter the Machine in S3 is...permanently lost to Walter.
Yes, this Walter now loves and accepts Peter, but it's not the same, and like you said, it's some bizarro-land situation where Peter and Olivia are in a sense, totally isolated from everyone around them, and the relationship of the main three is a weird, unequal triangle now with this sort of barrier between Walter and the other two.
I get what you're saying about Olivia being the original lead, and even though I love Peter, I didn't have a problem with that. Yours isn't an uncommon sentiment, though sadly some ardent Olivia fans (NOT you, by any means!) seem to take out their disappointment and anger on Peter the character, rather than the writers of the show - and that's why you see me arguing so long and loud and hard in his defense. I guess I just don't see awesomeness as a zero sum game where building up one character must necessarily diminish another. But this Team Peter vs Team Olivia (or Team Anna vs Team Josh) thing I see in so many places is one big dealbreaker for me being more active in the fandom.