Random thought: on Brothers and Sisters, Jon Glover, the Magnificent Bastard over on Smallville, is playing the boyfriend of Saul, played by Ron Rifkin, the Magnificent Bastard over on Alias. This? Amuses me to no end.

In Pride and Prejudice news: Pride & Prejudice: the Zombie Movie Version? Apparently someone got a parody published and now they're thinking of making it into a film:

"It quickly became obvious that Jane (Austen) had laid down the blueprint for a zombie novel," author Seth Grahame-Smith told Australia’s Herald Sun. ”Why else in the original should a regiment arrive on Lizzie Bennet's doorstep when they should have been off fighting Napoleon? It was to protect the family from an invasion of brain-eaters, obviously."

YOU GUYS. I can't even...You know, I thought it was a joke at first, but it's listed on Amazon and the movie reports are popping up in legitimate sources. It's like I can't decide if I want to cry or laugh, this is so ridiculous.

In 24 news:

Holy crap, this season is on fire. I looooooved this episode.

1. Renee, Renee, Renne. You *really* didn't know what you were getting yourself into when you crossed that line with Tanner, did you? You were just pissed because he was laughing at you and you wanted to prove that you could get the results. Oh man. She's totally in over her head. (Annie Wersching makes the most hilarious "Oh shit, what the hell am I doing?" faces.) I like that she didn't even do anything to the kid or the mom physically, but emotionally she knew she was terrorizing them and that got to her. This hour had Renee struggling for most of the episode, but at the same time, she still showed incredible compartmentalization skills with her acknowledgement that she's not okay, but she'll deal with it later. Props to whomever wrote the Tomorrow line. That was awesome. (Also, dude, I continue to be impressed by her single-shot kills. Those are not easy. Renee's conflicted a lot of the time, but when she commits to something, she REALLY commits, and when she's on, she's on fire.)

2. Also, I adored that scene in front of the Capitol building. Yeah, there are better places for them to meet that are more discreet, but the symbolism of them having that particular conversation about rules and laws in front of the building where laws are made was a REALLY nice touch. You had Jack and Larry doing the whole "Angel and Demon on each shoulder" and Renee struggling with it and not wanting to make that decision, but Jack still pressing to pick a damn side and act was just...GUH. The moral dilemmas like that are why I watch this show.

That exchange between Larry and Jack was just so.freaking.good too, because Jack's "Not today" wasn't a punctuation of badassery that it usually is. He seemed to have more of a sad resignation that that's the way the world is right now. Add in Larry's fear of Renee turning into Jack, plus Jack's insistence that Renee already crossed the line, and it all ties into the whole discussion Rachel and I had about this reoccuring the question of integrity in the 24-verse and how hard it is to get out of that world once you start on that path. I'm glad that Larry's there to serve as the counter-point to Jack.

3. Speaking of which, anyone else want to hand Larry the book, "He's Just Not Into You"? Poor guy. I mean, yeah Renee might have been scared of what Larry thought of her actions, but honestly, who doesn't take the opportunity to hug their crush? The "I'm sorry I made you think I was dead" clause is ALWAYS a freebie. I'm beginning to think that his feelings are totally one-sided. It sort of cracks me up that throughout the entire season, Renee and Larry always have the same conversation: "If you trust me, you'll help me do this." *bats eyes prettily* "Sigh. Fine. But next time, Renee...What do you need?" Larry is so Renee's bitch.

4. "With all due respect, Madame President, ask around." Damn straight. Of all the things to question about Jack, his patriotism and loyalty to the office of the President is NOT one of them. Hell, he was the one orchestrated the plan to get the guy corrupting that position out of office and into jail house arrest. Best line in the entire season so far, and that says a lot because there have been some GREAT lines this season.

5. Cherry Jones did a great job this episode. I'm really starting to warm up to President Taylor, almost as much as I loved David Palmer. She's not backing down, and she totally has balls of steel. Now if only the people around her weren't so wussy.

6. I love that 24 is featuring DC and all, but dude. No way they get from the White House to Andrew's Air Force Base in 10-15mins. Would it kill them to whip out a map or do a search on Googlemaps once in a while? Now I know how the LA people feel watching this show.

7. Since this is episode 8, I was expecting there to be a stopping point (I believe this is when they had to stop for the writers strike). And they did with a bang (totally got caught off guard when Henry got shot).

But I am wondering what they are going to do with the rest of the season. Now that Dubaku basically has no leverage anymore, I guess from here they're going to start going after the moles within their system. If the previews are to be believed (this is Fox, after all), we'll be finding out the FBI one, but there's still the President's cabinet to deal with and the issue of Jon Voight's character. (This is where 24: Redemption actually helps, because it gives the audience a foot up from the characters to know that he might be coming as a baddie, in case you didn't already hear from the media news.) I have a feeling we haven't seen the last of Dubaku because it's too good an opportunity to pass up for Dubaku to find out that the guy who killed his brother and the one who destroyed the CIP device and saved Henry Taylor are one in the same. I wonder if he'll end up teaming up with Jon Voight's character.

Or he might not. Either way, Dubaku really brought the action for the first act of this season, so if he is out of the game, I hope whomever's coming up next will continue to keep up with this level of intensity. As first acts of the season go, this 8-ep arc was right up there with S1.
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From: [personal profile] catch22girl


REALLY? REALLY? I saw that and just omg what - I - sometimes - no. It makes me glad I didn't get into film.

Renee is an awesome shot. See, she's learning the downside of "whatever it takes" which is that once you cross the line, you've crossed over and it can't be reversed. She's gone from just being a fed to becoming a player in the 24verse and that...is never a safe place for anyone (re: our conversation). Was that our first reference beyond the senate to the idea that a tomorrow exists? I think if the ad hadn't shown her in the house with the wife, it would have been even more powerful because we wouldn't know, as it is, I found myself going, oh Renee, don't honey.

I don't know, I can't tell with her, she seems to care about Larry, but she's got this other voice in her head right now. I loved the "triangle" of that moment and 24 is never afraid to make Jack look absolutely crazy and as I said somewhere else, bitching out a federal agent until they see things your way and go hold a family hostage? That's...pretty awful. Although trust and love are so close in the 24 world that if she trusts him *that* much, she has to care about him. To me it seems like they once had something and he still has feelings, but with no backstory at all, it's basically a guessing game.

Oooo great line and? So true. You could question a lot about him, but one thing you can't is his total dedication to keeping *the country* safe. Just hold a seance and ask David Palmer, or find Wayne and ask him. Hell Ethan, you were there last year, you *know* this. I loved that Jack offered. He didn't have to, but well, lets just say he's a bit sensitive in this area.

She's so strong in her conviction, I just hope the invasion goes well.

I was so not expecting Henry to be shot - talk about your worst case scenario endings and Jack just lost it, as nothing's worse than ruining a family, making someone violate their own ethical code, and then it's all for nothing. Henry's shot and Dubaku has gone off.

YES. Dubaku is kinda...not a threat. We have some vague info on moles, but rooting out a mole isn't really a threat unless they're still reporting.

Hmmm, I'm really REALLY partial to day one and day two, but best since day three I'd say.


From: [identity profile] dealan311.livejournal.com


24 is never afraid to make Jack look absolutely crazy and as I said somewhere else, bitching out a federal agent until they see things your way and go hold a family hostage? That's...pretty awful.

Jack browbeating Renee into helping him was pretty brutal to watch. When he was all, "Pssha, the FBI is filled with bunch of wussies. Renee, pick a damn side!," I cringed. Larry's point that the rules make us better cut straight to the argument because even if the other players don't follow the rules, at least you can look yourself in the mirror and go to sleep/die with honor.

Now on the rewatch, I laughed my ass off when I tried watching it again through shipper eyes because all their actions came across as "Damnit, why do all the girls like the bad boys" / "Because we get shit done!" (do it sometime; it's HILARIOUS). I really want to do a parody ala screen caps and comic book bubbles wherein Jack James Deans his way around DC, Renee is totally flirting with Jack, Larry's scared he's losing out her to the bad boy, and Janis is annoyed at having to endure Larry's emo ways.

ETA: True. I mean S1 is just special cuz it's the first, S2 had CTU blowing up, S5 had Palmer killed and Tony and Michelle being blown up- but S7 had flying!squirrel!Jack tackling Tony, which is an A+++++ in my book.
Edited Date: 2009-02-11 07:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] catch22girl


Dude, awesome icon.

Right! Of course, it's also so you can act on moral authority in the world. The rules are what make us civilized.

Is it bad that I sorta watched it that way? Dude, it's so true, like the Reflecting pool moment where Larry's all "you're alive! you're alive!" and Jack comes up and is the new bad influence. I think the best part is how Jack is totally oblivious to his role there, Larry sees him as a threat, Renee thinks there's something about him, and Jack just wants to find Henry Taylor. YOU MUST DO IT.

Oooo true. Also White House! It's funny because this is the first season where the White House is really the center of emotional trauma. As I said n my LJ, this is Jack's happiest day *ever* at the moment. Um, until Henry got shot, that was a bad moment for him there. Karen, who is awesome, pointed out that Henry not only represents lots of people Jack couldn't save in the past, but also got shot while tied to a chair!


From: [identity profile] dealan311.livejournal.com


(thanks! I needed some Renee and Jack icons, so I made a bunch last night.)

I think the best part is how Jack is totally oblivious to his role there, Larry sees him as a threat, Renee thinks there's something about him, and Jack just wants to find Henry Taylor.

It's kind of hilarious actually because it's happened twice now where Jack has essentially cockblocked Larry, because he wants to keep the action going. He's all fidgety about saving the world and he doesn't have time for all this emo sappy shit! Heehee.

Also, you gotta wonder about the particular edits they made when Renee was on the phone convincing Larry. They showed a reaction shot of Jack twice, and both times his eyebrows were way up. I wonder if he was thinking, "Nah, she already tried the 'if you ever trusted me at all, trust me now' line back in hour 2. He won't fall for that again...wait, wha???"
Edited Date: 2009-02-11 03:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] catch22girl


Hee! That is kind of exactly what happened on the screen. It's bad, there's so many ships this season that I wouldn't mind seeing. I'm actually really digging the love triangle that isn't. Oh sure, he doesn't have time for it *now*, lets fast forward a few hours and see what happens when things start impacting him. It'll be all shoe on the other foot then.

Dude, those were the strangest reaction shots! I honestly have *no* idea what they meant. I like that take though.

Also, am I wrong or did Jack wait until after the commercial break to call Renee and tell her Taylor's location?


From: [identity profile] dealan311.livejournal.com


Oh absolutely I'm digging the triangle that isn't. At this rate, we're going to wind up with Renee's captured or in danger with Larry and Jack will have to fight over how to save her.

Although if they do go down that route, I think I'd prefer it if Jack gets captured/incapacitated in some way. Cuz then Renee would have to put her Bauer training to work, and the possibility of her recruiting Larry and Tony to figure a way to get him back would be a timebomb just waiting to go off. We thought the Jack/Larry scene was confrontational? Just wait until Larry sits down with Tony when Jack's safety is on the line. Watching Renee try to mitigate that would be hilarious.

You know, I think you are right about the commercial break thing, but I'd have to check the DVR tonight when I get home.
Edited Date: 2009-02-11 05:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] catch22girl


Oh man, that is what I want to see more than anything else EVER. Sorry, now that you said it, this is what I want to see happen later in the season.

I could see it too. I think I need to read that fic now. Larry-Tony-Renee - oh please show, please.

From: [identity profile] dealan311.livejournal.com


You're welcome?

If it doesn't happen, I say you write it. :)
Edited Date: 2009-02-11 07:19 pm (UTC)

From: [identity profile] lauratan.livejournal.com


Finally caught up... big whoa. What a different season though. I *LOVE* Renee... she's quickly become a great player and she's actually very refreshing. Her "tomorrow" line made me booyah at the computer screen.

But oh NO Colm Feore got shot... they keep trying to kill off the Canadians!

From: [identity profile] dealan311.livejournal.com


Yeah, whoever is writing this season is FANTASTIC. Between Renee's Tomorrow line, Tony's line about how "the rules had changed and there was no such thing as honor anymore," Jack's line about "two worlds: the one we live in and another for the ones we give our lives to protect," Larry's "The rules make us better," and Chloe's "I'm a stay-at-home mom" - I'm loving every bit of this season.

Yeah but the one Canadian they'll never kill is Kiefer. Well, they can try. But killing Jack Bauer doesn't make him dead; it just makes him angry.


Edited Date: 2009-02-15 11:03 am (UTC)
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